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Old Jun 29, 2008, 02:27 AM // 02:27   #41
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you want people not to be able to leave groups OR guilds? go live in some country ruled by a dictator, just some advice seems like you'd like it there.

seriously Dishonorable made RA shit don't let it make all of pve shit too.
Not commenting on the Guild concept ('cause I never heard of Guildhoppers before), but people should NOT leave groups in the middle of a mission. It's downright unethical. If this is a concern, the person should make sure the group is the kind of group they are looking for BEFORE entering the mission.

As for RA, it was always shit. It's random, so you KNOW that when you're going to play, it's 50/50 chance of getting a shitty group. The only difference is that now people spend more time actually playing RA instead of losing over and over while waiting for a full party that doesn't have any quitters.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 08:55 AM // 08:55   #42
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just made the RA comment cuz the whole Dishonorable system always seemed harsh to me. it made haveing a wining team a bad thing. i am not saying the random system of RA makes it shit, its always interesting when an all Melee team ends up working out better then one with a dedicated healer or two.

As far as leavers in pve most of them just lose connection, or they have more important things come up in real life. anyone that really wants to leave a group bad enough, will regardless of punishment. any punishment short of their account getting suspended/deleted but then that's just... even at that point just go afk, how do they know if you'v died of a hart attack or something? seriously leavers or leachers? pick one, sad but true.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 08:58 AM // 08:58   #43
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You don't need anyone to farm vanguard points. The day GWEN came out, I had the armor in six hours. It's that easy to farm. I did it with heroes and henchmen. But, I can see where this is going, but I think Dishonorable should be fixed first before they apply it somewhere. Otherwise there will be a Dishonorable for switching to different outposts at this rate.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 09:28 AM // 09:28   #44
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Not a good idea at all. Having to proceed with a terrible pug group after they have proven to be inadequate to complete the task at hand for fear of a crippling hex being applied to them is counterproductive.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 05:29 PM // 17:29   #45
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Not a good idea at all. Having to proceed with a terrible pug group after they have proven to be inadequate to complete the task at hand for fear of a crippling hex being applied to them is counterproductive.
A. People can usually avoid joining retarded pug's, and i usually notice one before we start.
B. People cannot foresee how retarded a single player may be, and prevent /ragequits.

If you joined a horrible group, it is your own fault. If you joined a good group, and some jack @ss decides to leave, then it is their fault.

In most cases of actually needing people over heroes, then you can usually tell, for example:
You (maybe a monk) joins a group of r3 ursans for FoW. Using your vast intellect, you leave the group.

And there ya go, you prevented yourself from a massive fail!
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #46
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seriously Dishonorable made RA shit don't let it make all of pve shit too.
It's people like you that made RA bad in the first place. "OMG! NO MUNK! NO WAY TO WIN, LEAVE NAO!!"

Seriously, I've actually gotten a glad point (back when it took 10 in a row) because I never left, and 7 other people in the match would leave, leaving just me with a flawless victory. Also, probably 50% of my glad points have been attained with no monk in the party.

Just because you can't rage groups doesn't make RA "bad". All it does is prevent ragers and syncing (which, imo, made RA terrible).
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #47
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/signed. Raging is just as big as a problem in PvE as iti s in PvP.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50   #48
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/signed. Raging is just as big as a problem in PvE as it is in PvP. I'm actually gonna side with PvE this time. Munky said:

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As far as leavers in pve most of them just lose connection, or they have more important things come up in real life. anyone that really wants to leave a group bad enough, will regardless of punishment. any punishment short of their account getting suspended/deleted but then that's just... even at that point just go afk, how do they know if you'v died of a hart attack or something? seriously leavers or leachers? pick one, sad but true.
That doesn't happen in PvP?
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11   #49
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i am not saying the random system of RA makes it shit, its always interesting when an all Melee team ends up working out better then one with a dedicated healer or two.
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It's people like you that made RA bad in the first place. "OMG! NO MUNK! NO WAY TO WIN, LEAVE NAO!!"
read what someone is saying before you go out of your way to flame them... if your gona skim fine, but don't try to sound like you know what someone is saying.

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That doesn't happen in PvP?
pvp already has Dishonorable. I am not going to try to sound like i know much about pvp cuz aside from getting my rank 3 and stoping most pvp play back when hero way was around, i don't.

honestly if people really want Dishonorable for pve go ahead, ill be runing full hero teams for everything with a friend like i mostly do now.
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Old Jun 29, 2008, 09:37 PM // 21:37   #50
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You control who joins your party so I guess you can kinda control this sort of thing.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 05:52 AM // 05:52   #51
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read what someone is saying before you go out of your way to flame them... if your gona skim fine, but don't try to sound like you know what someone is saying
Before you go out of your way to edit your posts to make me look like a fool...don't.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06   #52
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If anet could fix the average pug they would have done it a long time ago.

IMO anet's response to this was heros
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34   #53
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You control who joins your party so I guess you can kinda control this sort of thing.
You can control that in many PvP modes, yet dishonorable works there too.
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Old Jun 30, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04   #54
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Before you go out of your way to edit your posts to make me look like a fool...don't.
edit...? is quoting myself and not changing anything editing now?
look its in this thread its the same as in the quote, and its never been edited.

not really trying to make you look like a fool, just don't like it when people flame me for something i was not even saying.
but to stop a flame war before it happens i wont respond to anymore of your false flames. ( you can think youv won if you want, don't really care)
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